Amazon Jumps into Lead in TotalSocial® UK Retail Industry Ranker

Selfridges, New Look Shoot Up Ranking Due to Strong Sentiment, Online and Offline

Amazon Jumps into Lead in TotalSocial® UK Retail Industry Ranker Amazon has taken over first place among retailers in the United Kingdom when it comes to driving consumer conversations, both online and offline. In the latest TotalSocial ranker from Engagement Labs, Amazon scores 64.6, up from 59.7 a year ago, good enough to put it ahead of Adidas (62.6) and ASOS (62.3). Surprisingly, perhaps, Amazon’s key strength is offline conversation, ranking first with a score of 73, the highest of any brand, due to the high volume and positive sentiment of consumer conversations related to the eCommerce giant. 019-11 EL02 UK RETAIL RANKER v2 Meantime, the fastest rising brand is Selfridges, the century-old retailer now ranked eighth, up from 22nd a year ago.  In the last year the store has launched a new “Radical Luxury” campaign and has seen its offline sentiment and brand sharing soar, meaning people are talking positively about its marketing and advertising. The brand’s main weakness is a lack of more frequent conversations, particularly offline.  


BRAND SHARING RISES AS NEW CAMPAIGN DRIVES SELFRIGDGES TALK “About 25% of all brand conversations are stimulated by advertising,” said Engagement Labs CEO Ed Keller. “When advertising is designed to be talkworthy, it can generate more personal recommendations for the brand, and the brand’s message enjoys extended reach through social amplification, both online and in the real world.” New Look is also up sharply, to sixth overall, up from 15th, thanks to rising sentiment, especially offline. The positive conversations correlate with a positive turnaround story, a summertime campaign, and a new line of 500 vegan bags and shoes. Due principally to advances by their competitors, ASOS, Marks & Spencer, and John Lewis have all slipped two places in the ranking, to third, fifth, and seventh, respectively. “In order to drive positive conversations in the retail category, it is necessary for brands to take risks and stand out,” said Mr. Keller.  “If you are not moving forward, you are falling behind.”   Engagement Labs has entered a partnership with Kantar Analytics that provides rights to sell the TotalSocial® platform in the UK. To learn more about Kantar and TotalSocial and how to increase your brand’s word of mouth in real life and online, request a complimentary briefing and demo. Sign Up for a Kantar + TotalSocial Demo  

Aveeno Suffers Guilt by Association in Social Media, But Not in Real World

johnsonsaveeno The Johnson & Johnson Company is facing major legal and public relations challenges due to accusations and settlements related to America’s opioid epidemic, and concerns about the safety of its Johnson’s Baby Powder, is recently the target of a large product recall. Not until recent weeks did the problems appear to seriously impact other J&J owned brands such as Aveeno skincare.  Twitter outrage about the possibility of asbestos in Johnson’s Baby Powder in late October, and linking Aveeno to the parent company, coincided with Aveeno’s online net sentiment plummeting into negative territory, below levels even for the Johnson & Johnson corporate brand and its well-known sibling brand, Tylenol. In addition, a few other negative posts in social media related to suspicions that Aveeno’s spokeswoman, Jennifer Aniston, may have inadvertently posted a photo of herself and her Friends co-stars revealing possible illicit drug use.  


AVEENO’S ONLINE CONVERSATION TURNED VERY NEGATIVE QUICKLY But while online sentiment for Aveeno is plummeting, not so for Aveeno conversations in the real world, which remain extremely positive and rising slightly.  Indeed, even offline conversations about the Johnson & Johnson corporate brand remain more positive than negative, which is a reminder that online conversations can give a very different view than the real-world conversations at water coolers and kitchen tables, as we at Engagement Labs have reported often, including in MediaPost.  


OFFLINE AVEENO CONVERSATION REMAINS HIGHLY POSITIVE Understanding the differences between online and offline conversations is crucial for marketers, because failure to do so can lead to overreactions and bad decisions, as well as missed opportunities to grow their brands. The statistical evidence suggests online and offline conversations impact sales almost equally, making it imperative to perform well in both channels. Further, consumers tend to trust friends and family more than what they see in “social media,” reinforcing further the importance of real world conversations. The need to understand both real world conversation—and not rely on social media as a surrogate—is even more important for large corporate families when the alleged sins of the father may be visited only on the Twitter page of the son or daughter.

Beverage Alcohol Conversations Flourish in an Era of Innovation

Crown Royal, Jack Daniel’s, Blue Moon All Surging in Consumer Conversations

BeerWineSpirits2new report out this month warns that “consumer interest in beverage alcohol is down,” based on shifts in social media conversations.  Produced by social listening company, Social Standards, the report runs counter to industry reports and forecasts, which are more favorable. One key reason why: Social media conversations in isolation provide an insufficient window into larger trends. Engagement Labs’ TotalSocial® platform incorporates both online and offline conversations about brands, including alcoholic beverage brands.  Over the last four years, the volume of conversations has held steady for the biggest beer, spirits, and wine brands, despite the explosion of upstart brands like White Claw, Tito’s, and Modelo, as well as the expanding craft beer and distillery markets in many states. Taken altogether, one must conclude that consumer interest is growing, not declining. Among the eleven most talked about beer brands, the average number of people participating in offline conversations every week has remained steady at about 8 million, while the number for the most talked about eight spirits brands has slipped only slightly from 4 million, as shown below. Both the beer and spirits categories exhibit strong seasonal variation, peaking during the December holidays and in June/July most years. 019-10 EL05 BEER AND LIQUOR BRANDS GRAPHS-01 While category talk levels are holding up, we are seeing some big shifts at the individual brand level when considering all four of Engagement Labs TotalSocial® metrics, including volume, sentiment, brand sharing, and influence. Whiskey is having a good year.  Jack Daniel’s has surged into first place, up from sixth last year, with a composite score of 57, and Crown Royal has surged 10 positions to second.  They are followed by two rising beer brands, Budweiser and Blue Moon. Meantime, Samuel Adams has dropped to eighth place from second, and Heineken dropped to tenth from fourth. Bud Light has dropped two spots, to fifth, despite commercials that appeared to win the Super Bowl in 2019. 019-10 EL05 BEER AND LIQUOR BRANDS RANK-01 (2) A key factor in the rise of Jack Daniel’s and Crown Royal has been super-high sentiment scores, meaning that many more good things than bad things are being said about the brands.  Crown Royal has the highest “net sentiment” in offline conversations, and third highest online, behind Blue Moon and Samuel Adams. Jack Daniel’s is third highest for offline net sentiment, behind Crown Royal and Blue Moon. In a very strong sign for the category, offline sentiment scores are rising for the beer and spirits categories over the last four years, as shown in the chart below. However, online sentiment scores are declining, reinforcing our consistent finding that while both online and offline conversations are important they are very different and one cannot predict the other.  


019-10 EL05 BEER AND LIQUOR BRANDS GRAPHS-04 Indeed, there is reason to believe that for the beverage alcohol industry, social media may be a particularly poor predictor of offline behavior. One reason is that many marketers hold back on social media due to complicated rules for beverage alcohol. Another factor is that many social media users will be wary of sharing too many posts about alcohol, for fear of implying they have a drinking problem, or simply to avoid the risk of offending friends and family who are confirmed non-drinkers. Thus, marketers should be wary of drawing sweeping conclusions from consumer opinions posted online.

Emirates Remains TotalSocial Leader Amid British Travel Industry Turbulence

In Consumer Conversations,, P&O, and British Airways All Rising as Thomas Cook Crashes

emiratesthomascook Emirates Airlines remains the TotalSocial leader in the travel category, thanks to very positive conversations among influential consumers.  The brand’s TotalSocial score of 60.6 is highest among travel service providers, up from 57.8 in 2018. Meantime, several brands have been rising in the rankings. moved up to second place, up from fifth, thanks to very strong offline conversations generally.  P&O Cruises moved to third from seventh, on the strength of the best online conversation volume among all brands for the 12 months ending September 2019. And the venerable British Airways brand rose from eighth to fourth, thanks to high volume of online and offline conversations, and due to high levels of “brand sharing,” which means the brand’s marketing and advertising are stimulating both online and offline conversations. Some of those conversations are related to heartwarming commercials this year celebrating the airline’s 100th anniversary.  


Top 10 UK TotalSocial for British Travel Brands Another venerable British travel brand failed to make the TotalSocial “top ten” list, the 178-year-old Thomas Cook company that collapsed suddenly in September, stranding 150,000 Britons away on holiday. Thomas Cook ranked only 18th this year, down from 15th in 2018. The brand performed especially poorly on sentiment among 36 travel brands, ranking 8th from the bottom for offline sentiment and 5th from the bottom for online sentiment.  As one would expect, in the days following the collapse, sentiment has turned much worse, especially offline (see chart below). It’s also noteworthy that among the TotalSocial top ten travel brands are Expedia, Airbnb, and Skyscanner—three brands credited with undermining the Thomas Cook business model of affordable travel packages. Even before the financial collapse, Thomas Cook had a turbulent year.  In March the company was embroiled in a controversy over a young woman passenger who was told she was dressed inappropriately and needed to “cover up” her crop top, or get off the plane. The incident got wide media coverage, including on the ITV program “This Morning,” leading to plummeting sentiment in online conversations but extremely positive ones in offline discussions. Online and offline conversations often go in opposite directions, in this case likely because the social media audience tends to be young, whereas offline conversations are more widely representative, including older and more conservative people as well as younger.  


THOMAS COOK SENTIMENT TURBULENT BEFORE THE CRASH The collapse of Thomas Cook presents opportunities for other brands. Virgin Atlantic, currently ranked eighth, jumped in via Twitter to offer passengers flights home from Cuba, Jamaica, and the United States, leading to improvements in online volume and brand sharing during the last weeks of September.   Engagement Labs has entered a partnership with Kantar Analytics that provides rights to sell the TotalSocial® platform in the UK. To learn more about Kantar and TotalSocial and how to increase your brand’s word of mouth in real life and online, request a complimentary briefing and demo.

Foot Locker Struggles to Get into the Right Conversation

Tragedy & Comedy Lift Discussion, but Not Results

Foot Locker Struggles to Get into the Right Conversation Foot Locker became the topic of millions of additional face-to-face conversations in recent months, first due to the tragic mass shooting in El Paso in early August, in which a heroic, off-duty soldier emerged from a Foot Locker store to help guide children to safety. Then in September, New Orleans Saints defensive end Cam Jordan joked after a bad call against him that the NFL referees were “Foot Locker” store clerks, who wear referee uniforms. The two incidents prompted millions of conversations about the athletic footwear and apparel retailer, but probably not the kind of discussions that lead to purchases. That’s too bad, because most of the spring and summer, the Foot Locker brand was suffering a conversational drought, the longest the brand has experienced in three years (See chart below). The lull in Foot Locker conversations cannot be explained as a category phenomenon, as Nike, Adidas, and Dick’s Sporting Goods were all stable throughout the same period.  


FOOT LOCKER SUFFERED SUMMERTIME CONVERSATION LULL Not surprisingly, that downturn in Foot Locker conversation coincided with some poor business results. At midyear, sales were close to flat versus the prior year, earnings were down 12%, and the stock price fell 5%.  As we have reported before, there is a solid connection between consumer conversations and sales, suggesting the Foot Locker brand needs to generate more productive consumer conversations that involve recommendations and the sharing of brand’s content, both online and offline. Foot Locker has tried to leverage Cam Jordan’s joke by sending products with a note that said, gamely, “we’ve got your back… and feet.”  That gambit yielded a Tweet and picture from the Pro Bowl player. The company is also making several other moves to increase its connection with middle-aging Generation X, including “community-based Power Stores,” new digital retail technology, and exclusive products unique to specific stores. It will be a few months before we know whether those latest marketing maneuvers will produce results at the water cooler and at the cash register.

Social Media Fails to Predict Offline Reaction When Brands Take Stands on Gun Violence

walmartgunpolicy-1 The nation’s biggest and best-known brands increasingly are stepping into fraught political topics, particularly gun violence. This week,  145 companies signed a letter addressed to the United State Senate urging action to curb gun violence. How are consumers reacting? In the wake of the 2018 school shooting in Parkland, FL, Engagement Labs’ TotalSocial platform found that online and offline conversations trended very differently for brands such as Dick’s Sporting Goods, Citibank, Delta, MetLife, and Publix. Generally, social media conversations about brands taking stands to curb gun violence have turned negative, while real-world conversations remained positive. This reinforces a more generalized finding we have found, namely, that there is little correlation between the online and offline conversation. That pattern is holding up again following the horrific mass shooting that killed 22 and injured 24 people in an El Paso Walmart on August 3.  Walmart and other retailers have begun announcing policies to discourage customers from openly carrying guns in their stores, even in states that permit “open carry.” Walmart also announced in September a series of additional policies to curtail the presence of guns in its stores, including an end to the sale of assault rifles and pistols, although hunting rifles will continue to be sold at Walmart. The response in social media has been quite negative for Walmart—first, as a result of the horror of the shooting itself, and then due to opposition to policies that limit gun sales and open carry in Walmart stores.  Indeed, the net sentiment of social media conversations about Walmart were the most negative we have measured for Walmart in four years, with negative opinions outweighing positive ones for six consecutive weeks ending September 8.  


WALMART NET SENTIMENT PLUMMETS ONLINE BUT NOT OFFLINE Yet even as the online conversation about Walmart turned very negative, the everyday, face-to-face conversations held up—even improved somewhat.  By the start of September, net sentiment for offline conversations were at +48, meaning positive conversations outweigh negative and mixed ones by 48 percentage points.  That compares to a -10 net sentiment for online discussions about Walmart, the lowest in four years. One reason online and offline conversations differ so much is that social media conversations tend to draw the most extreme opinions, and often do not reflect the broader conversation measured offline.  That’s why we recommend a holistic measurement approach that is available in TotalSocial. Three other retailers that recently made announcements to discourage openly carrying guns on their premises—CVS, Kroger, and Walgreens—have not suffered downturns in conversation sentiment, either online or offline.  


WALMART’S SOCIAL MEDIA DISCUSSION HURT THE MOST BY GUN ISSUE Retailer Fred Meyer, a subsidiary of Kroger, has seen its social media conversation turn negative, but other issues are involved, notably a threatened labor strike over compensation and pay equity.  A sixth retailer, Wegman’s, has held up in social media after announcing its policy on open carry, but its normally very positive offline conversations have deteriorated, more likely due to its efforts to eliminate plastic bags in all stores by year’s end. Thus, it is Walmart who has taken the biggest hit in social media over guns, attracting the focus of attention from critics. What kind of impact might these businesses expect over the longer-term?  Based on the Dick’s Sporting Goods example, there is probably is more upside than downside for all of them. Despite predictions of serious harm to its business, the positive offline conversations were more predictive of future success than the negative social media discussions, as we reported last summer in MediaPost. The fact that 145 companies are going public on the issue signals they have drawn a similar conclusion. Or else they have decided that the scourge of gun violence is so serious, it’s a business risk worth taking.

“Chicken War” Helps Popeyes Hog the Conversation—If Only for a Week

Popeyes_Chicken_Sandwich The much publicized fast-food chicken fight that broke out in August propelled Popeyes up the TotalSocial pecking order from 22nd to 11th place among quick-service restaurant brands, as we anticipated in our pre-Labor Day analysis. The dramatic improvement in the brand’s conversation profile was due to a huge rise in the volume of both online and offline conversations about Popeyes.  Social media mentions peaked first, during the week beginning August 19, at about 1.5 million. Offline conversations peaked the following week at a stunning 45 million, reflecting the number of people who were part of an offline conversation about Popeyes. The volume surge put Popeyes in first place for online conversations, and first place for online sharing of brand content.  The offline conversation volume surge earned the brand in second place—behind only McDonald’s, which earns many of its conversations due to its overwhelming market share advantage. Indeed, it is a remarkable achievement when a brand ranked 19th in market share grabs second place in offline conversation volume—even if only for a week. 019-09 EL02 CHICKEN WAR 2 v3  

For One Week, Popeyes Claimed Second Place in Offline Conversation Volume

019-09 EL02 CHICKEN WAR 2 GRAPH02 v1-02 Popeyes did not rise higher than 11th overall in the TotalSocial rankings because the brand failed to earn a boost on other TotalSocial metrics, most notably, net sentiment.  The chicken war did nothing to improve the ratio of positive to negative conversations about Popeyes, while adversaries Chick fil-A and Wendy’s continue to be conversation sentiment leaders. One reason for the lack of consumer enthusiasm may be the fact that Popeyes couldn’t keep up with the explosion of consumer demand, forcing the end to chicken sandwich sales “for a while.” Yet product scarcity has sometimes been shown to be a powerful driver of demand and word of mouth—by suggesting popularity, and by generating a “fear of missing out.”   If Popeyes can sustain interest as it replenishes product inventory, the brand may be able to capitalize on pent-up demand. Which leaves open the question of whether Chick fil-A and Wendy’s made a mistake in helping to give so much visibility to a chicken rival normally stuck far behind in the pecking order. If nothing else, the chicken war provided a vivid illustration of a fact we’ve proven through sophisticated statistical modeling: Consumer conversations truly drive purchases.

Chick-fil-A in Chicken Fight with Popeyes, but Wendy’s Rules the Roost

Did the Popeyes quick-service restaurant chain know what kind of fight they were picking when they announced the nationwide roll-out of a New Orleans-style chicken sandwich? Until triggering this latest “chicken war,” Popeyes was positioned far down the QSR pecking order, ranked only 22nd in the industry with a TotalSocial® score of 42.4, reflecting below-average performance in social media and in real-world conversations about the brand. By comparison, Wendy’s and Chick-fil-A owned the top two spots in the TotalSocial® rankings, with Wendy’s the top brand for social media conversation, and Chick-fil-A ranked first for offline conversations. Both brands swiftly squawked back at upstart Popeyes, claiming to have the superior chicken products, and earning widespread retweets.  


POPEYES RANKS FAR BEHIND WENDY’S & CHICK-FIL-A AS SOCIAL MEDIA CHICKEN WAR HEATS UP *MarketShare rank among “The QSR 50” for 2018 from QSR magazine.  TotalSocial scores from Engagement Labs based on 12 months ending August 18, 2019. While ordinarily thought of as a “burger brand,” Wendy’s became famous for its spicy chicken nuggets in the spring of 2017 when a teenager named Carter Wilkerson asked Wendy’s how many retweets would earn him free nuggets for a year.  After Wendy’s answered “18 million,” “nugget boy” went on to claim the all-time champ for retweets, breaking Ellen DeGeneres’ record. Since then, Wendy’s has continued to perform extremely well online, notably this spring when Chance the Rapper’s goosed Wendy’s Twitter account by publicly praying for the return of those Wendy’s spicy nuggets.  Savvy marketers at Wendy’s jumped on the opportunity to answer his prayers, generating another Tweet storm. Offline conversations are also trending upward for Wendy’s.  


WENDY’S ENJOYED A SURGE IN SOCIAL MEDIA IN RESPONSE TO TWEET BY CHANCE THE RAPPER Chick-fil-A jumped into the online fray as well, but the brand’s true success is based on dominating the offline conversation.  The brand has, by far, the QSR category’s highest offline “net sentiment” score, 80.3, 10 points ahead of number-two Dunkin’ Donuts, due to much more positive than negative offline conversations. Chick-fil-A is the QSR brand that people gush about, although the love does not extend to social media where its score is merely 32.9. When one compares TotalSocial scores to market share, some dramatic contrasts stand out.  The top three brands—Chipotle at number three, in addition to Wendy’s and Chick-fil-A, are all socially punching well above their market presence weight.  At the other extreme, a few market leaders perform poorly on the TotalSocial index: McDonald’s, Burger King, and Subway. Only Starbucks earns a place among the top four both in terms of market share and TotalSocial® score.  TotalSocial metrics have been shown to be forward-looking, meaning that market performance tends to improve for highly ranked TotalSocial® brands, and to decline for lower-ranked ones. How will Popeyes emerge from its game-of-chicken against two TotalSocial champs?  Will the brand land on a higher perch in the category?  Popeyes TotalSocial Online score rose to its highest level in three years on the eve of the counter-attacks by Wendy’s and Chick-fil-A.  Check back after Labor Day to see which brand is crowing, and which is eating crow.

Clorox the Oval Office?

Political Joke Explodes in Social Media, but Offline Clorox Conversations Have Been Building for Months

trump_gillibrand_clorox When the CMO of Clorox said last year his marketing strategy was “trying to get people to have the right conversations” about his brands, he surely did not anticipate the phrase “Clorox the Oval Office” would enter the American lexicon during the Democratic Party presidential debates the following summer. In what was widely described as the “line of the night,” Senator Kristin Gillibrand of New York claimed her first act as president would involve applying the venerable bleach brand to the surfaces of the most powerful office in the land.  Consumer conversations in social media exploded on her use of the suggestive phrase, more than doubling the brand’s previous social media high. As we reported last December, Clorox’s emphasis on conversation was already helping it to stand out in a category that is rarely a big topic of conversation—but they have been doing it in the real world, with steadily rising levels of offline conversation. Over the last two years, the brand had regularly been the topic of more than 40 million conversations per week, compared to about 30 million per week previously.  Online and Offline Volume Metrics for Clorox Brand  Eric Reynolds, the Clorox CMO, said last October that he is changing the brand’s approach to marketing, to make it more “conversational.”
“There will be more marketing, but it’ll be less obvious. It’ll be more inside people’s lives. People are going to be going to their trusted networks for information, not their traditional media.” – Eric Reynolds, Clorox
Data from the TotalSocial platform demonstrate that the brand has had considerable success with its conversation strategy.  Time will tell whether Clorox receives any lasting additional benefit from the New York Senator’s turn of phrase, either in terms of offline conversation or purchases. From the Senator’s perspective, the more pressing question is whether her memorable line has sufficiently boosted her profile to earn a spot on the debate stage in September. As of this writing, she has not yet reached the polling threshold required to qualify. Back in 1984, presidential candidate Walter Mondale memorably ripped-off the Wendy’s hamburger catch-phrase “Where’s the beef?” in a Democratic nomination debate but lost in the general election to Ronald Reagan.  Meantime, the brand did extremely well. Wendy’s enjoyed a 31% increase in revenues based on the popular phrase.

“Fat Shaming” Drives Negative Social Media for Macy’s & Forever 21

But It’s Macy’s with the Big Problem: Too Little Offline Conversation

macysstore_momjeans In July, Macy’s and Forever 21 got themselves into social media trouble for business decisions that struck many consumers as hostile to “plus-size” women.  While both took their lumps in social media, it is Macy’s with the bigger problem—not enough conversation in the real world. On July 21, a Twitter user named Alie Ward posted a photo and comment on Twitter declaring that a novelty dinner plate sold at Macy’s was a form of fat shaming, decorated as it was with concentric serving-size circles labeled “mom jeans” at the outer perimeter of the plate, and “skinny jeans” for the small circle in the middle.  The same week, online shoppers of Forever 21started sharing their anger in social media after receiving free Atkins “diet bars” samples with their plus-sized apparel orders. Both brands have seen sharp, downward trends in the “net sentiment” of social media conversations, as people share more negative and fewer positive opinions about the brands. In fact, by late July the two brands were approaching net sentiment scores of zero, meaning negative and mixed comments were offsetting nearly all the positive ones.

Online Sentiment Goes Negative for Macy’s, Forever 21

Online Sentiment Goes Negative for Macy’s, Forever 21 As we have seen in many other cases of outrage against brands in social media, the trend has not translated into negativity in the “real world.”  The net sentiment of face-to-face conversations about Macy’s have remained rather constant. Meanwhile, Forever 21’s net sentiment has improved a bit, probably reflecting a long-term trend rather than a response to the diet bar sampling, which the company said involved buyers of all garments, not just plus sized.  

Offline Sentiment Remains Strong for Both Brands, Despite “Fat Shaming” Incidents

Offline Sentiment Remains strong for Both Brands, Despite “Fat Shaming” Incidents Regardless of whether the negativity about fat-shaming moves offline in the coming weeks, Macy’s is facing a bigger word-of-mouth problem than Forever 21.  The venerable department store retailer is being talked about less often now than at any time in the last three years.  The long-term trend suggests the relevance of Macy’s to consumers is fading quickly.  

Macy’s Offline Conversation at Lowest Level in 3 Years

Macy’s Offline Conversation at Lowest Level in 3 Years Forever 21, on the other hand, appears to be holding up in terms of offline conversation levels over the last three years, despite some volatility.  It may not be possible for people to remain 21-years-old forever, but the fast-fashion brand is having some success at remaining relevant, despite the occasional marketing mistake. Forever 21 appears to be holding up in terms of offline conversation levels over the last three years